Now, that does make sense, and it is realistic. My concern is at least partly the over-use of a commonly-found plot device (I think I can probably name 20 movies with a corrupt corporation, corrupt head of a corporation, or corrupt executives within a corporation as the premise without going outside of science fiction. Aliens, Firefly/Serenity, etc.). It's not the realism, it's the over-use of the plot device that comes across as the problem.
Now, with that said, an interesting idea would be the -perception- of what you've said as a result of the virus advancing as a result of inept countering makes for a good subversion of the device. And, of course, an executive or two with a side agenda is reasonable...*coughEisnercough*...and would certainly give a nice basis for that view, as would having people legitimately trying to work "within the system" to improve things getting tarred by bad PR.
Disclaimer: I like seeing "stock" plot points subverted. The twist adds something special, I feel, as long as it's not overdone.
Thanks. I hoped it would clear up a few ambiguities but not tip our hand too far.
While developing our pitch we discussed Guardian Corp. a lot, and the idea of it being a top-heavy corporation tied up in red tape was a big part of those discussions. You've added some nice context here.
To me Guardian Corp operatives are kind of like corporate security guards or the average police officer... they're well intentioned, for the most part, but their hands are tied by the bureaucracy they work for. They think and believe they're doing the right thing - want to do the right thing - but they move too slow, and aren't privy to all the information in the same way Cache and his team of open-sourcers are.
But if 'absolute power corrupts absolutely', don't you think the power-brokers at Guardian Corp might have a hidden agenda?
Alright. First of all, that was a nice post in y'all's blog. Clears up some ambiguities (which are going to happen in a first round of a pitch; trust me, I've had to explain many things a second time myself because I didn't get some of the details across well).
As to the anti-corporate angle, it just feels like an over-used plot point. The Guardian Corporation, as distinct from the old Guardian Collective (yes, I sense that a reorganization occurred) appearing to be complicit in the spread of the virus (likely a misread at first) just hit me as a retread of the same "bad guy" situation that appears in a long, long list of TV shows, movies, video games, and the like. Just feels like an overused plot device.
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Now, having the Guadrian Corporation as good guys tied up in red tape? That actually...I like some places you could put jokes in referring to that. It'd be decently original...and I'm getting images in my mind of them -wanting- to do the right thing, and then being told that they can't because of some arcane rule that their programming won't let them 'overlook'.
Thanks for the slight nod, Anakin. As I've said in comments elsewhere, we've always intended to draw the original characters into the ReGenerated storyline as we go along. I tried to allude to that in the synopsis, but was perhaps a little too cryptic.
Which is why I've posted at some length about what you can expect to see in my blog, A Little Disclosure:
Except for 2.0 I haven't been following any of the pitches that closely, but it seems to me your review doesn't take into account things the Arrival team has said they're going to change. Sprite-User interaction is out the window, last I saw.
Anakin commented 4 years ago
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Now, that does make sense, and it is realistic. My concern is at least partly the over-use of a commonly-found plot device (I think I can probably name 20 movies with a corrupt corporation, corrupt head of a corporation, or corrupt executives within a corporation as the premise without going outside of science fiction. Aliens, Firefly/Serenity, etc.). It's not the realism, it's the over-use of the plot device that comes across as the problem.
Now, with that said, an interesting idea would be the -perception- of what you've said as a result of the virus advancing as a result of inept countering makes for a good subversion of the device. And, of course, an executive or two with a side agenda is reasonable...*coughEisnercough*...and would certainly give a nice basis for that view, as would having people legitimately trying to work "within the system" to improve things getting tarred by bad PR.
Disclaimer: I like seeing "stock" plot points subverted. The twist adds something special, I feel, as long as it's not overdone.
Angelo commented 4 years ago
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Thanks. I hoped it would clear up a few ambiguities but not tip our hand too far.
While developing our pitch we discussed Guardian Corp. a lot, and the idea of it being a top-heavy corporation tied up in red tape was a big part of those discussions. You've added some nice context here.
To me Guardian Corp operatives are kind of like corporate security guards or the average police officer... they're well intentioned, for the most part, but their hands are tied by the bureaucracy they work for. They think and believe they're doing the right thing - want to do the right thing - but they move too slow, and aren't privy to all the information in the same way Cache and his team of open-sourcers are.
But if 'absolute power corrupts absolutely', don't you think the power-brokers at Guardian Corp might have a hidden agenda?
Anakin commented 4 years ago
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Alright. First of all, that was a nice post in y'all's blog. Clears up some ambiguities (which are going to happen in a first round of a pitch; trust me, I've had to explain many things a second time myself because I didn't get some of the details across well).
As to the anti-corporate angle, it just feels like an over-used plot point. The Guardian Corporation, as distinct from the old Guardian Collective (yes, I sense that a reorganization occurred) appearing to be complicit in the spread of the virus (likely a misread at first) just hit me as a retread of the same "bad guy" situation that appears in a long, long list of TV shows, movies, video games, and the like. Just feels like an overused plot device.
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Now, having the Guadrian Corporation as good guys tied up in red tape? That actually...I like some places you could put jokes in referring to that. It'd be decently original...and I'm getting images in my mind of them -wanting- to do the right thing, and then being told that they can't because of some arcane rule that their programming won't let them 'overlook'.
Angelo commented 4 years ago
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ReGenerated Writer here...
Thanks for the slight nod, Anakin. As I've said in comments elsewhere, we've always intended to draw the original characters into the ReGenerated storyline as we go along. I tried to allude to that in the synopsis, but was perhaps a little too cryptic.
Which is why I've posted at some length about what you can expect to see in my blog, A Little Disclosure:
http://live.zeros2heroes.com/component/option,com_myblog/show,A-Little-Disclosure.html/Itemid,110/
Care to elaborate on what it is about the anti-corporate angle that's not sitting well with you?
Anakin commented 4 years ago
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*nods*
This was effectively a review of the first round of pitches...it'd have gone up much sooner, but I wasn't sure how to set up the blogs.
rek commented 4 years ago
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Except for 2.0 I haven't been following any of the pitches that closely, but it seems to me your review doesn't take into account things the Arrival team has said they're going to change. Sprite-User interaction is out the window, last I saw.