Many people wanted to see him regain his sprite form once again, have Phong's machine work. I wouldn't mind seeing this as well. As for character, he should play a bigger role in his son's life than Season Four allowed. Playing Null-catch just wasn't enough. Personally, I'd like the two of them to share a stronger bond than that like Enzo and his sister did in the first arc of Season Three. There was something deep there for the siblings. The same should be true for the parent figure in their lives.
A bit off-topic, ever wonder what happened to their mother?
Died in childbirth? Obviously they wouldn't use that particular term but that's what I think.
I agree, Welman should play a bigger part. I think we can safely assume that the wipeout of Megabyte would wipe out any effects he's had, so freeing Welman. Since Phong told him about what happened to Enzo, I think he can be the one who gives counsel to Matrix after Turbo gives him the order to enter the MMORPG-thing. I think he can also be central in bonding the 2 Enzos and encouraging a brotherly relationship between them.
Action wise, he'll probably take a back seat (not much you can do as a Null-bot) but he should play a large role in character development.
That's what I'd assumed as well, but we're all left to wonder. Aw jeeze, THAT'S what I forgot to tell GB to ask! *foreheadsmack*
As for the infection leaving once Megabyte does, it didn't happen that way in the series, same with any virus. Once the infection spreads, it stays until you clean or delete the infected files, virus or no. Same with Daemon. It was only in theory that Dot said people "might recover" once she was destroyed.
That said, how is ol' Whelman doing in your version, WhizzyWig? It's hours later, and he's still infected?
It may be good to note that someone wrote a Season Four where Whelman's suit was infected but he was not, just like Dot wasn't infected in...well..."Infected". XD Only her suite was controlled, with her unable to get out of the harness.
I'm going to go against the tide and say that I don't think Welman should be a major character in this story. It would be a mistake to write him out as if he never existed, but I feel that the story is big enough as it is. Not every possible thread should be used, otherwise the story gets too big and loses focus. 'Can't see the forest for the trees.'
First off, is Megabyte in control of Welman's "Null-bot" exo-frame? Then the Good Guys will of course feel the need to rescue him. We've never seen Bob or any other Guardian disinfect object, only Sprites (humanoid Sprites, never binomes - hmm!) so we'll assume they can't clean that suit. Can they bust the null out of it? If so, I'd assume Our Heroes would build him another exo-suit. If they have the resources to put on a USO ahow they have the resources for that.
After that point, of course Our Heroes will want to restore him to Spritehood, but, guess what, you can't have everything you want. They have much more immediate problems, what with the ginormous game and Megabyte and Gnosis and stuff. Those need to be dealt with right away. Don't make Welman compete with those. Dot, Bob, etc know about priorities, and they can see what needs to be dealt with NOW. Leave it as something they want, something it hurts them to put off. Welman would agree with them, of course, once he comes to terms with the revelation that the Net, which he assumed would be populated with friendly systems, is actually a dangerous place, with horrors Mainframe had never seen before.
We have to remember that this comic is not only for us longtime fans who have been waiting for the end of Season 4. It has to be accessible to new people as well. Introducing Welman opens up a whole can of nulls regarding backstory and the particulars of his unique condition. So which do you do - for the sake of one second-string character plop in a lot of exposition that doesn't really contribute to the story and only distracts new readers, or plop him in without explanation, or leave him out?
Not that I want to eliminate him. I like Welman. I hope he can be written in in such a way that he works with the story as opposed to being a needless add-on. But I strongly dislike it when a story that's new to me has too many characters, especially noncontributing ones, and I see that danger here.
I think the three of us who've commented want exactly the same thing, Slack, and it's a pretty cool thing to see.
He doesn't need to be larger than life, but he should get a few heartfelt lines in there. He's their father, and he's had no airtime really being one.
As for the suit, in Infected, Megabyte's hold on the exo-suit lifted once he was in the containment chamber. However, I think this should be ignored, as it really wouldn't make sense. That would mean that during that time, all virals would have been briefly disinfected. Just in case anyone brings it up.
As for the look of that suit, it's clunky and exo-cute, yet Phong had built a pretty bad assci (and huge) mechanical man for Nullzilla. Couldn't something be designed for Whelman's null that looks more spritely as that did?
And yes, I know they have war priorities. But there are certain groups who work on certain things. It's possible a team could be working on game samplings, but it could just be written in that there are no games to sample because the User is gone. There's another reason they'd want to bring the User back to Mainframe. Dangerous to invite games back, but they're the only chance the nullified sprites have, even if only in theory.
Well, back when I was thinking up my own conclusion to The Hunt, I recalled that Megabyte infected Welman's Exo-Suit. I also recalled, earlier in the series, what happened when Welman regained his consciousness while he was still a null. When Enzo touched him, Hex's code (was it code or something else?) was transferred to him, so he became Null Wellman.
What if, during this code transfer, Hex indirectly gave Wellman some sort of immunity to Megabyte and any of his infections? Because, obviously, Hex did not get along famously well with her brother. She would do anything to get an edge over him, even if she wasn't around to see it. Of course Wellman's suit would be infected; it's blue at the end of the series, that's your proof right there. But Welman could be pretending to be under Megabyte's control, while really having his own mind that he can control thanks to Hex (assuming he could break the effects of the infection on his Exo-Suit, mind over matter). That way he can help everybody else resist against Megabyte while still being in the clear, maybe get some more information from the virus to plot against him.
So you keep him in that form, or you could use it for something else to transfer him over into Arriva's story line. Maybe use Slackbot's idea and transfer him over to another Exo-Suit. I dunno.
But for Welman's role in Arrival assuming he's back with the good guys... I'd kind of have to agree with Slackbot in that he shouldn't be a major character. Truth betold, I just can't imagine him as a major character. I think he'd be similar to Phong; always there in the background, offering his support to all that need it. A character that everybody knows, but who does a lot of talking and not a lot of action, but still contributes to the plot regularly (a major-minor character, if you will). Actually, if you plan to have Phong still infected by Megabyte, Wellman could essentially take over Phong's role. (By the way, what are you going to do with Phong?) I see Welman as an emotional guidepost for the heroes. I mean, he's the father of two (three now? XD) sprites, and Dot looked almost grown-up when the Twin City incident happened. He must have learned a thing or two during that time about giving those he cares about some guidance.
Of course for the newcomers, you're going to want to have a really brief summary of what happened regarding Welman's past, otherwise they'll be very confused. You could do that in dialog between some of the characters, maybe some flashbacks, or you may just decide to do a "Character Bios" section and go over briefly what happened there. I think the newcomers would need something to look from to understand what's going on. Plus it would serve well to those who already know what happened but need a refresher.
Actually I'm kind of liking that idea... HAVE you considered doing a Character Bios section? If not in the actual webcomic (though if it gets to a printed version it should be there, I think), but somewhere on the website?
'A bit off-topic, ever wonder what happened to their mother?'
Maybe they don't actually *have* a mother, they're actually both clones of Welman made in the name of SCIENCE. (or because he wanted kids but didn't have time for all that nonsense with the opposite sex) That would at least explain why they both look exactly like him. Or maybe I've just been watching way too much Venture Bros.
As for Welman's role in Arrival, I'm also in agreement that he shouldn't be a major character. There's a *lot* of stuff going on in Arrival, and I'd personally like to see more on some of the new characters *coughVectorcough* than more on Welman. Not that I have anything against him, it's just that he doesn't seem to have as big a part to play in the story.
Okay I blogged on this before. I felt that the reason Phong's machine was introduced in the first place was because the creators intended for Welman to be brought back as a sprite.
I theorized that the rest of Welman's missing code was inside Megabyte to go with the fact that Hex had part of his conscious being.
I really wanted to see Welman get restored but I wonder how it would happen now. Maybe Gnosis gets the code from Megabyte and wants to use it to gain his own spritehood.
Or maybe Gnosis will want to get his hands (if he had any) on Welman to gain information about attaining spritehood! It would give the character a good roll right?
I guess people have already touched on this before I read this, but I'll say what I think regardless.
Wellman's position in the story should be more of a character "in the sidelines". The cast already has enough main characters and antagonists as it is, and Wellman's still a nullbot. It would be really neat if he has another exo-suit for him to use as a weapon, so that he wouldn't just be a defenseless nut. I could also see Wellman sacrificing himself for the sake of his kids; could be used as plot progression.
On the sides, I was wondering how Wellman reacts to Bob and AndrAIa. He'd be a pretty nice in-law.
WeBViRuS commented 4 years ago
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Many people wanted to see him regain his sprite form once again, have Phong's machine work. I wouldn't mind seeing this as well. As for character, he should play a bigger role in his son's life than Season Four allowed. Playing Null-catch just wasn't enough. Personally, I'd like the two of them to share a stronger bond than that like Enzo and his sister did in the first arc of Season Three. There was something deep there for the siblings. The same should be true for the parent figure in their lives.
A bit off-topic, ever wonder what happened to their mother?
Raidensbin... commented 4 years ago
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Died in childbirth? Obviously they wouldn't use that particular term but that's what I think.
I agree, Welman should play a bigger part. I think we can safely assume that the wipeout of Megabyte would wipe out any effects he's had, so freeing Welman. Since Phong told him about what happened to Enzo, I think he can be the one who gives counsel to Matrix after Turbo gives him the order to enter the MMORPG-thing. I think he can also be central in bonding the 2 Enzos and encouraging a brotherly relationship between them.
Action wise, he'll probably take a back seat (not much you can do as a Null-bot) but he should play a large role in character development.
WeBViRuS commented 4 years ago
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That's what I'd assumed as well, but we're all left to wonder. Aw jeeze, THAT'S what I forgot to tell GB to ask! *foreheadsmack*
As for the infection leaving once Megabyte does, it didn't happen that way in the series, same with any virus. Once the infection spreads, it stays until you clean or delete the infected files, virus or no. Same with Daemon. It was only in theory that Dot said people "might recover" once she was destroyed.
That said, how is ol' Whelman doing in your version, WhizzyWig? It's hours later, and he's still infected?
It may be good to note that someone wrote a Season Four where Whelman's suit was infected but he was not, just like Dot wasn't infected in...well..."Infected". XD Only her suite was controlled, with her unable to get out of the harness.
Slackbot commented 4 years ago
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I'm going to go against the tide and say that I don't think Welman should be a major character in this story. It would be a mistake to write him out as if he never existed, but I feel that the story is big enough as it is. Not every possible thread should be used, otherwise the story gets too big and loses focus. 'Can't see the forest for the trees.'
First off, is Megabyte in control of Welman's "Null-bot" exo-frame? Then the Good Guys will of course feel the need to rescue him. We've never seen Bob or any other Guardian disinfect object, only Sprites (humanoid Sprites, never binomes - hmm!) so we'll assume they can't clean that suit. Can they bust the null out of it? If so, I'd assume Our Heroes would build him another exo-suit. If they have the resources to put on a USO ahow they have the resources for that.
After that point, of course Our Heroes will want to restore him to Spritehood, but, guess what, you can't have everything you want. They have much more immediate problems, what with the ginormous game and Megabyte and Gnosis and stuff. Those need to be dealt with right away. Don't make Welman compete with those. Dot, Bob, etc know about priorities, and they can see what needs to be dealt with NOW. Leave it as something they want, something it hurts them to put off. Welman would agree with them, of course, once he comes to terms with the revelation that the Net, which he assumed would be populated with friendly systems, is actually a dangerous place, with horrors Mainframe had never seen before.
Slackbot commented 4 years ago
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I was interrupted and forgot to mention...
We have to remember that this comic is not only for us longtime fans who have been waiting for the end of Season 4. It has to be accessible to new people as well. Introducing Welman opens up a whole can of nulls regarding backstory and the particulars of his unique condition. So which do you do - for the sake of one second-string character plop in a lot of exposition that doesn't really contribute to the story and only distracts new readers, or plop him in without explanation, or leave him out?
Not that I want to eliminate him. I like Welman. I hope he can be written in in such a way that he works with the story as opposed to being a needless add-on. But I strongly dislike it when a story that's new to me has too many characters, especially noncontributing ones, and I see that danger here.
WeBViRuS commented 4 years ago
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I think the three of us who've commented want exactly the same thing, Slack, and it's a pretty cool thing to see.
He doesn't need to be larger than life, but he should get a few heartfelt lines in there. He's their father, and he's had no airtime really being one.
As for the suit, in Infected, Megabyte's hold on the exo-suit lifted once he was in the containment chamber. However, I think this should be ignored, as it really wouldn't make sense. That would mean that during that time, all virals would have been briefly disinfected. Just in case anyone brings it up.
As for the look of that suit, it's clunky and exo-cute, yet Phong had built a pretty bad assci (and huge) mechanical man for Nullzilla. Couldn't something be designed for Whelman's null that looks more spritely as that did?
And yes, I know they have war priorities. But there are certain groups who work on certain things. It's possible a team could be working on game samplings, but it could just be written in that there are no games to sample because the User is gone. There's another reason they'd want to bring the User back to Mainframe. Dangerous to invite games back, but they're the only chance the nullified sprites have, even if only in theory.
aSnowyEven... commented 4 years ago
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Well, back when I was thinking up my own conclusion to The Hunt, I recalled that Megabyte infected Welman's Exo-Suit. I also recalled, earlier in the series, what happened when Welman regained his consciousness while he was still a null. When Enzo touched him, Hex's code (was it code or something else?) was transferred to him, so he became Null Wellman.
What if, during this code transfer, Hex indirectly gave Wellman some sort of immunity to Megabyte and any of his infections? Because, obviously, Hex did not get along famously well with her brother. She would do anything to get an edge over him, even if she wasn't around to see it. Of course Wellman's suit would be infected; it's blue at the end of the series, that's your proof right there. But Welman could be pretending to be under Megabyte's control, while really having his own mind that he can control thanks to Hex (assuming he could break the effects of the infection on his Exo-Suit, mind over matter). That way he can help everybody else resist against Megabyte while still being in the clear, maybe get some more information from the virus to plot against him.
So you keep him in that form, or you could use it for something else to transfer him over into Arriva's story line. Maybe use Slackbot's idea and transfer him over to another Exo-Suit. I dunno.
But for Welman's role in Arrival assuming he's back with the good guys... I'd kind of have to agree with Slackbot in that he shouldn't be a major character. Truth betold, I just can't imagine him as a major character. I think he'd be similar to Phong; always there in the background, offering his support to all that need it. A character that everybody knows, but who does a lot of talking and not a lot of action, but still contributes to the plot regularly (a major-minor character, if you will). Actually, if you plan to have Phong still infected by Megabyte, Wellman could essentially take over Phong's role. (By the way, what are you going to do with Phong?) I see Welman as an emotional guidepost for the heroes. I mean, he's the father of two (three now? XD) sprites, and Dot looked almost grown-up when the Twin City incident happened. He must have learned a thing or two during that time about giving those he cares about some guidance.
Of course for the newcomers, you're going to want to have a really brief summary of what happened regarding Welman's past, otherwise they'll be very confused. You could do that in dialog between some of the characters, maybe some flashbacks, or you may just decide to do a "Character Bios" section and go over briefly what happened there. I think the newcomers would need something to look from to understand what's going on. Plus it would serve well to those who already know what happened but need a refresher.
Actually I'm kind of liking that idea... HAVE you considered doing a Character Bios section? If not in the actual webcomic (though if it gets to a printed version it should be there, I think), but somewhere on the website?
JenKollic commented 4 years ago
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'A bit off-topic, ever wonder what happened to their mother?'
Maybe they don't actually *have* a mother, they're actually both clones of Welman made in the name of SCIENCE. (or because he wanted kids but didn't have time for all that nonsense with the opposite sex) That would at least explain why they both look exactly like him. Or maybe I've just been watching way too much Venture Bros.
As for Welman's role in Arrival, I'm also in agreement that he shouldn't be a major character. There's a *lot* of stuff going on in Arrival, and I'd personally like to see more on some of the new characters *coughVectorcough* than more on Welman. Not that I have anything against him, it's just that he doesn't seem to have as big a part to play in the story.
divinerose... commented 4 years ago
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Okay I blogged on this before. I felt that the reason Phong's machine was introduced in the first place was because the creators intended for Welman to be brought back as a sprite.
I theorized that the rest of Welman's missing code was inside Megabyte to go with the fact that Hex had part of his conscious being.
I really wanted to see Welman get restored but I wonder how it would happen now. Maybe Gnosis gets the code from Megabyte and wants to use it to gain his own spritehood.
Or maybe Gnosis will want to get his hands (if he had any) on Welman to gain information about attaining spritehood! It would give the character a good roll right?
Haruhi commented 4 years ago
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I guess people have already touched on this before I read this, but I'll say what I think regardless.
Wellman's position in the story should be more of a character "in the sidelines". The cast already has enough main characters and antagonists as it is, and Wellman's still a nullbot. It would be really neat if he has another exo-suit for him to use as a weapon, so that he wouldn't just be a defenseless nut. I could also see Wellman sacrificing himself for the sake of his kids; could be used as plot progression.
On the sides, I was wondering how Wellman reacts to Bob and AndrAIa. He'd be a pretty nice in-law.